7th Grade Potheads Smoke the Evidence?
I heard a rumor that on Friday at Highland Park Middle School two 7th grade girls were busted for smoking pot in the girls’ bathroom. Hard to believe but true.
I just got confirmation from UPPD Chief Gary Adams.
The issue at the school did occur. We did not file any charges, but did refer this to the parents of the juveniles. The officers advised there was nothing left of the joint for evidence.
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Almost every day my 7th grade boy carpool members have a new story to tell about one of the girls who was involved in this incident. Everyone knows her or knows of her. It is tragic and this girl doesn’t stand a chance of living down her bad reputation in this community. Poor thing. Mom, Dad, get this girl some help.
Oh, man, my own middle schooler will blame me for the uncovering of this story, but I must convince her that we all have our own sources. She thinks that anytime a story about the Middle School comes out, I have betrayed her sources.
I’m pretty shocked that 7th graders living in the Bubble would be able to obtain pot, other than from an older sibling, perhaps. I hope the police department is searching diligently for the source. Girls in 7th grade should be getting their first bra, not smoking their first joint, for goodness sake. I really am stunned by this (and yes, I probably am somewhat naive) since there has been such a strong focus on anti-drug education in our school system, starting in 1st grade. My daughter will not turn 13 until the end of her 7th-grade schoolyear; I can’t even imagine a 12-year old being able to obtain drugs in HPISD. Now I have yet another middle-school anxiety to obsess over, LOL!
Not a rumor - how could that be? I thought we had determined on the blog that any negative news coming from MIS/HPMS had to be “an over exaggerated rumor”. Right Reid?
Merritt - thanks for verifying before posting so that we can’t be told once again “oh, it’s just a rumor - you know you can’t believe the crazy things your kids say”.
Here’s the question that seems to always be in the middle of these situations: Has there been any communication from the school to the parents about this? Once again, no one wants names or details, just that the school is dealing with the situation appropriately and effectively.
“she doesn’t have a chance living down her bad reputation” are you kidding me? You all are turning this blog into a HP Rag sheet. People forget something else will happen that will tune you all up. This blog should be called “the Town Crier”!! Lighten up, let the parents deal with this and don’t worsen this child’s rep any more!!
Just think of all the bull **** W has done and we just forget it!!!!!!!!!
I TOTALLY agree. My 7th grader and her friends told me about this Friday night but I was not entirely sure it was true. The school needs to address it - there are rumors they were both expelled but who knows if that is correct? I would think that the consequence of their actions could also work to hopefully quell any other future incidents from attention grabbing 7th graders.
gmom,
I need to know who to tell my kid to stay away from. I am being a good parent by discussing other kids who are not good role models (can anyone say Jamie Lynn Spears?). I also want my kids to know that they can’t get away with anything in this community without me finding out about it.
Since this girl has a reputation already maybe someone needs to counsel the parents. Maybe the parents themselves are too embarassed to reach out for help. Your post makes you sound like an “it takes a village” kind of a person. Should there be some kind of government intervention here even if it is happening in the Bubble? I hope that 5 years from now that girl can be highlighted on this blog as someone who turned her life around…maybe shining a light on the problem is one way to make that happen.
I had heard about this from my 2 middle schoolers. I told a friend that lives in another state. Something similar happened in her child’s school and a general “this is what happened and this is how it was dealt with” letter went home with the kids. No names were mentioned. Chief Adams concurred that there was an incident so why not some communication from the school? It would help to reinforce the rules and let the students know that type of behavior is not allowed and will be dealt with. Communication is key.
I heard third-hand that one girl tested negative for drugs and was given in-school-suspension and the other tested positive and “was arrested.” Perhaps the police took her to her parents. I’m sure she got either ISS at HPMS or alternative school at HPHS.
I think anyone who has ever smoked a joint or taken a hit off a bong should refrain from commenting on this story. That should pretty much put an end to this comment stream.
Tuckerr, I am 3rd generation HP and and honestly my mother pulled me out of McCullough a week into the 7th grade (1st year of middle school) and I went to Hockaday. MIS is nothing but a holding pool of harmones and I honestly think putting 5th graders over there is wrong! My kids went all thru HP and ya there were real trouble makers and my kids weren’t perfect examples, but by God they made it. You know, you can’t pick your kids friends, they need to understand “guilty by association” - stay clear of trouble!!
What is a harmone?
gmom - I know this child. She doesn’t need this blog to perpetuate her bad rep - the kids have been observing her behavior and talking about it for years. My son is in several classes with her. He is affected and disturbed by what she does in and out of class - things I won’t mention but appear to be serious outcries for help. I commented on this because, as my mother always said, “There but for the Grace of God go I,” which means that it could just as easily be one of us dealing with this. This news is a good reminder (in case we needed one) that we all need to take a second look at what our kids are doing and if it’s unhealthy, then we need to step up and get help. And if that means removing your child from the environment in which these troubles germinated, then so be it.
Hugh, your comment shows why it is important to teach kids to not only stay away from drugs, but how not to succomb to peer pressure as well, especially during the formative middle school years. How many kids hear the phrase, “Everyone’s doing it”? What kids need to be told is that those who do illegal drugs (whether adolescent or adult) are in the minority and that it is ok to say no. Too bad these two girls had to learn that the hard way.
The girls probably got the pot from someone’s parents stash, maybe their own parents. I am told by kids that is where drugs come from.
I am an 8th grader at HPMS, and I kind of knew these 2 girls. They hung out with the “bad” kids, and definitely were known to be very “mature” for their age. I was surprised in hearing that kids our age smoked, I had only heard of drinking. The rumor at school was that they were expelled. The lunch table that they sat at is the one behind where I sit, and I have not heard any conversation about them during lunch.
It all starts with the parents - they probably speed in schools zones, use their hand-held cell phones while there and illegally park in handicap parking and write it off as “no big deal.” The kids take that type of attitude and apply to other situations such as this. Lead by example and pray they follow.
Jamie, That is truly the best, most authentic insight we’ve had on this topic. Thank you. And I’m glad that you were surprised to hear of their behavior, there is still hope! Stay good.
Memo to Hugh (see above): I politely disagree with your comment. Whatever idiotic mistakes I may have made as a teenager do not (and should not) prevent me from wanting my child to make smarter decisions, no matter what the topic. Nor should any behaviours I may or may not have indulged in 35 years ago preclude me from stating my opinion about those behaviors in someone else. The most important element of this incident (in my humble opinion) is that the police follow up with this child to find the source of the pot. If someone is actually selling to middle school students, they need to be arrested…pronto. If the pot belonged to the parents, then they should suffer the same consequences as any other person guilty of possession. I totally agree that we as parents need to be aware of who our kids hang out with and speak frankly with them about their peers who are making bad choices. We have a running dialogue with our 4th grader about this topic.
I guess it helps to go to school with them. I never did like those two.
According to students at the high school, both girls were issued 10 days (ONLY!?!) of DAEP (suspension at the high school campus). I thought there would be far more serious consequences for having illegal drugs at a public school.
Do the girls in question have older siblings? Wouldn’t be surprised if that was the source of the drugs.
This is a ditto for M. Keller’s post on Hugh’s post. Just because I have sinned (and repented) doesn’t mean that I can never comment on that sin and/or counsel my kids about my mistake.
I just got a blast email from the Assistant Vice Principal at MIS/HPMS to notify parents that the school is hosting a joint PTA meeting. Hmmm. Not sure I would have used the word “joint” to describe anything at that school until this issue is out of the news. IJS.
Folks. Please. Just because our kids attend HPISD does not mean they’re immune from life. Start smelling their water bottles. You might be surprised!
This is true, it did happen. I heard from my student that the whole top floor smelt like skunk, and that one of the two girls who smoked in the bathroom was on cocaine. And the school is not allowed to drug test her [crazy?]. Also, the older siblings of the student in AEP hang out with my daughter and is a sweetheart and would never do such a think, well I hope. I really wonder how this is happening. Our poor children.
oh please. Highland Park is NOT known for being drug free. Talk to your kids, but dont stalk them. Trust them and they probably wont give you a reason to not trust them.
Why is this being posted on a blog?
I am student at the middle school, and I know about and even witness my peers smoking and drinking illegal things.
KIDS IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SMOKE AND DRINK.
It’s disturbing and unhealthy, but instead of writing your woes on a Park Cities People blog, be sure your kid isn’t involved with the drugs either.
hahaha, wow. i kinda have to laugh at how naive parents are nowadays. i’m an eigth grader at the middle school, and i gotta say, that while smoking pot in a bathroom is the most idiotic thing i’ve ever heard of occuring at such a young age, i’ve heard of much more dangerous things going on. kids are smoking pot, drinking, cutting, having sex all right under the parents noses. no matter how well you educate someone about the risks, they’re going to try something based on what they think their friends will think about them if they did. if no one frowned upon smoking pot, everyone would at least try it. right?
and for all of you who are saying “where could they possibly have gotten the drugs from?! i thought we were safe moving here”, i must say that you’re VERY ignorant. in case you haven’t noticed, yes, we do live in the park cities, which is just a stones throw away from DALLAS TEXAS. think about that. we are in the backyard of one of the highest drug trafficking areas in the country, so if you’re really that worried about your children getting involved, move to wyoming, or some other state that has a population of 6 people. there’s no drugs there, so we don’t have to hear you complain.
it’s kind of sad how many people are ’shocked’ by this. in hp, not only are people doing stupid stuff like this, but they’re overpaying for it, cause we don’t know street values[yes i am a student, not some parent]. so how about this, all of the parents who commented on this quit being ‘concerned’, ’shocked’, ‘disappointed’, etc, etc. and actually keep your kids from doing this kind of stuff. i can almost guarantee that at least one of your kids is into something. maybe they were just raised smart enough not to get caught.
and on another note, none of your kids are very shocked about this. it happens EVERY DAY. at the middle/intermediate school and especially the high school.
anonymous, NT and wow - so what you have you done to help this? Turned your head and looked away? Perhaps you should contact the middle school principal, the police dept. as well as the parents of the students you see doing drugs and drinking. The principal would be very interested to know if it’s happening at school I’m sure. That’s how the 7th graders got busted, students walked by the bathroom, smelled something funny and TOLD a teacher. I commend them and their parents for teaching them to do the right thing.
To the middle school posters above;
OK, it sounds like we as parents are missing the boat regarding the presence of drugs and alcohol in the middle school. I think we all know that these things do exist in the high school, but it is somewhat shocking that this goes on in 7th & 8th grade. You guys have commented that we need to keep our kids from participating. As resident experts, I’m asking YOU how should we do this?? Yes, I know all the parent stuff about instilling good values, etc…but what I’m asking is what makes a difference to YOU? If you’re offered drugs or alcohol, what gives you the strength to say no? Is it something your parents have helped you with or a more personal decision? I would really be interested in your feedback!
What is so bad about pot, its not addictive, kids parents do have stashes that their kids dont know about, Every1 back in the day were stoners, Most Drugs come from mexico
Smoking Pot is one issue but in the BATHROOM AT SCHOOL 7th GRADE COME ONE
I have smoked pot when i was younger but i overcame it
Logan, I think “a holding pool of harmones” is something like a barbershop quartet.
Do something about it? What do you want us to do? This is highschool, people. Highland Park. Where the rich kids throw parties every weekend while their rich little parents go on two week cruises. So they smoked pot. Big deal. They deserve to be punished for getting caught. ******. Who smokes weed in a bathroom anyway?
Seriously, people. Wise up about your kids, wise up about their friends and try not to flip when you smell the smoke on their clothes.
The best way to help in this situation is to take a deep breath, a step back and a nice little glass of any alcohol of your choice. Your kids are smoking.
They make their own choices.
Get. Over. It.
I happen to be a student. Not a parent. I see what goes on every day in school. You parents don’t. So maybe you should listen to the people who see your kids every day.
well in response to me, i’m sorry but there are hallways that ALWAYS smell funny. the teachers know this goes on and so do the students, but a rumor is a rumor, whether and the school can’t legally do anything until the kids are caught. basically the ****** get busted. so it really isn’t worth all the time it would take to try to figure who is doin what, because unless their parents intervene, or they get caught in the act NOTHING happens.
and MK, most people do this because they are BORED. it’s sad but true. they get bored, have nothing better to do, and want to feel bad-ass. it’s one of the most pathetic thought processes ever, in my opinion, but that’s because when i get bored, i do something random and entertaining, no drugs/drinking involved.
and if you REALLY thought the middle school didn’t have these issues as well as the high school, i pity you and suggest you watch your kid, because there might be a REASON you don’t know.
NT and honey, your insight is exactly what we need. You can give it anonymously but please, give it to us. You seem like really smart kids and we need you. Not only do we need more info on how to talk to our kids but we need to tell the district where it happens and when and how they get away with it. If we/they know these things, we can step in and put up one more road block for your protection and theirs.
I hope the UPPD will look at NT’s information about the babysitter that might have given the children drugs and do everything within their power to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
E-mail me, I’ll take your details and pass it to the proper authorities. It won’t stop drug use in HPISD but we, through this blog, have the opportunity to make a huge difference.
We know that you guys have all the information and we are clueless. You have the power. You call the shots and let us help.
thank you merrit patterson, that is the best thing i have ever heard come from a parent on this subject.
You do realize this is a joke?
You can’t stop the drug usage in Highland Park, or anywhere for that matter. As long as there’s kids with completely disposable income, there’s going to be a demand for it.
HPISD can’t do anything, HPPD can’t do anything, the only individuals who have an opportunity to do anything are the parents that might on the off chance read this blog, and then be inspired to talk to their kids if they haven’t already. But going by other kids that I know in HP, their parents are either completely overprotective and their children use in complete secrecy. Or their parents are well aware of the fact, and simply choose to slip it under the table.
It’s your kids folks, do what you do.
yay fazeroner! if you want to keep your kids from doing things like this, try getting them to be easily entertained, cause this is so FUN.
Well, as for information, you might want to check into the fact that pot is available from the most obvious sources you can think of.
Seriously. Think obvious. What do you get?
Teachers, parents, siblings. Everywhere. Don’t talk to your kids about smoking pot. Ask them about their day. If they throw it back in your face, you know what you need to do. Ask more often. They’re not used to you taking an interest. Get on their good side. Build up trust. Don’t tear it down.
Faze, I know who you are and I agree. But just because it seems hopeless doesn’t mean we all have to give up.
Wow, I love you. But you already knew that
Parents, try to take an actual honest interest in your kids’ lives. We might actually get somewhere.
Fazeroner, I get what you’re saying but I also still believe that with you guys, the experts, we can make a dent in the problem. Maybe the impact that we have is an awareness that hasn’t ever been so driven by the youth that are in the know- you! You’re 100% right about the parents, lets work on it. Teach us some stuff and brainstorm with me.
WOW, give us what you’ve got. You guys are the ones. I’ll call Chief Adams myself. I’ll give your ideas to Cathy Bryce, I’ll call whoever will sit still long enough to listen.
Merritt@Merrittpatterson.com
well i know both honey and faze [love you honey] and you should listen to them, because they make brilliant points and are two very intelligent people. oh, and it would be nice if you would listen to me too, but i’ll take what i can get. in all seriousness though, listen to what goes on around you, most of the drugs/alcohol comes from a parent stash.
[btw faser, see you tomorrow!! and honey, you too of course. i see you everday...]
You want information? Well I’m not sure I can rat out my peers to someone who slaps a few pretty words on a blog. Don’t get me wrong, you seem like you’re eager to help, but I don’t want these people in the hands of someone who will pry them for information and not try to help.
Just because I don’t use doesn’t mean I don’t have friends (or former friends) who do. I don’t want to throw them to the sharks.
But I’ll try to help anyway.
My point here is though, the problem isn’t the drug use, or even the availability of drugs in the area. It’s the mindset of kids in HP. They know they can get anything if they want it, it isn’t hard. Anything you could want is a phone call away, really, you should be lucky the kids were only caught with weed. After talking with some of my friends in HP, I’m surprised that’s all it was, but then again I’m also surprised they haven’t been caught doing anything.
It’s a problem on pretty much every level, kids mindsets, parental involvement, school supervision, and of course police presence.
Wait. That came out wrong. I have friends who do and ratting them out would be difficult if help is not promised for them.
WOW, honey, NT, all of the kids that are reading, send this link to your friends and lets get their feedback too.
WOW, it does surprise me that parents have a stash. That is good info. When you hear about the kid that claims that as a source, what do you do? Do you tell your parents or a trusted teacher or do you ignore it? I’m not judging your response but I’m wondering if we can craft a new, more effective one that you’re comfortable with?
i think honey and i are both willing to help, but i have the same reluctance to name specifics.
You want results? Let it go. Kids are going to smoke whether you like it or not. If you smack down hard, they’ll go further to hide it. We’re good at that, us HP kids.
The tighter you hold, the more oxygen we lose. You push, we run into even more unsafe situations.
anyone smart enough to figure this out has the ability to drink without getting caught:
vodka=clear. water=clear. vodka=drunk,fast. water+vodka=full bottle of clear liquid.
and that’s only for the kids whose parents would notice if they didn’t cover their tracks. simple as that. and a dealer hopes to get a deal in hp, because we have way more exposible income and usually aren’t street-smart enough to know the real value.
I understand your hesitation. Do you feel comfortable asking your parents to meet with you and any authorities that I can gather together, I’ll go with you and your folks (or not)? Whatever you think is best. We can make sure it’s anonymous before you agree to tell anything or all bets are off.
If so, who do you think are the people that need to hear you, besides parents of the druggies? You know, like police, DARE reps, who? I’ll call anyone who’ll listen.
Be thinking about what the parents need to know in addition to what you’ve given us already, a column about this might be a way to reach some of them.
Wow, I believe the issue here is smoking. How about we don’t send these parents over the edge so fast. They’re new to this. Go easy on them.
Do you really think that if DARE actually worked, people would be smoking? We all went through the program, we all know the risks. Some choose to ignore them. Others choose to take the high road and find better things to do then get high all the time.
responding to faze, yeah, there’s no chance in hell we could beat drugs in hp. and if you’re an optomist and feel “with the help of the kids, parents, faculty and police; we can do this!”, you’re an *****. but i don’t think that was really what he was implying…
we can keep drugs out of the middle school by doing what i said earlier. you can try getting involved… but i don’t think you’ll be that effective. we don’t like to get parents involved at all.
but if you really feel as though you need some insight on what your kid feels, tell them a story about how you, or one of your close friends did drugs, even if it’s not true. it gives something for your child to identify with, and then they’ll respond by venting, or a comment, which you can play off of and see how they feel about it.
it’s pretty simple, just find a bridge between your experiences and your child’s experiences and you can get a LOT out of them.
but as far as the highschool goes… you can’t really keep drugs out of there. even if you do relate with your kids, and tell them why they shouldn’t do drugs, they’re probably going to try it. we learn the most from our friends, and if our friends say that the high is amazing, we’ll try it. if our friends frown upon it, we won’t. it’s simple as that.
and it looks like i’m the only person who doesn’t know who everyone else is…
wow? faze? honey? i dunno em.
Just going to chip in here once more, bringing in police, DARE reps, and all the rest isn’t the best idea. Parents need to figure that out for themselves.
I know myself I don’t like police, I’ve had too many foul run-in’s with them in the past, and DARE, isn’t that just like a joke now?
I have a DARE t-shirt still, you can probably guess when I wear it.
Are you suggesting that our parents LIE to us? Doesn’t that defeat the entire point of honesty?
And yeah, we all know each other.
amen on the dare shirt.
DARE was fun songs and an awesome teacher. that’s it. and the more you crack down on this, the more enticing it becomes to a lot of people. work on the students and parents first. and the shirt thing, sooo true.
NT, This quote from you is fabulous:
“but if you really feel as though you need some insight on what your kid feels, tell them a story about how you, or one of your close friends did drugs, even if it’s not true. it gives something for your child to identify with, and then they’ll respond by venting, or a comment, which you can play off of and see how they feel about it.”
This is the teaching we need. It might sound simple to you but not to us. When I was your age I told myself I would be such a cool parent and never forget any feeling that I’d experienced. But I admit it, somewhere between sorrority parties and becoming a mom, I forgot.
Wait. Patterson.
You agree with the whole ‘lie to your kids’ thing? What the hell?
hello people.
this is highland park.
i cant even name all the drug dealers in the school.
you dont think your innocent kid smokes or drinks.
hahaha.
please.
its easy to get.
moneys not an issue.
why not?
i know parents that are even okay with it.
they give there kids liquor.
or take hits of their sons bong.
you guys have no idea what goes on in your kids room when the doors closed or your at a movie.
I don’t know. It’s not good to lie, especially to your kids. But maybe this thought that NT had will help us think up an effective idea that stemmed from that. All I’m saying is, let’s talk about it. It made a little sense. I think I’m more in line with being honest about something I did or one of my friends did. I hadn’t thought about sharing that.
i don’t really think that honesty is an issue…
like, i’m not pulling for either side on this, it was just a suggestion to help a parent that is pretty adamant about this.
mj, it seems like you know whats up.
good job.
dude, dare sucks now. officer harden went to DPD, he doesn’t work here anymore. now we have some girl named…. officer elwonger.
harsh, i know.
NT, pick a side. The parents are ignorant of their kids’ lives and honestly, most don’t even care. Those who do, care too much. Trust me on that one. You know how that goes, fazer.
dare has never worked.
there are study’s that say it don’t work.
look at the ninth or tenth grade for example.
23 kids sent to boarding school.
hhmm.
i wonder what they got sent for…
Waaiiitt a second.
NT.
Does the word ‘GIP’ mean anything to you?
mj, dig in. come on. solutions. everything is open for impact by a group like you guys. ideas.
just cyber talk to one parent (without naming names)that you know is ok with their kids smoking pot.
write us a little letter, pretend it’s to that parent, about what you would say if no one would ever hear you but that one person and you knew you would never suffer any consequences from rattling off your thoughts. blog it.
i dunno, my experience has been slightly different. my parents try to get involved with stuff that’s going on, like they asked me about this whole thing, mostly because i’m friends or was friends with both girls. but they also understand that if i don’t want to talk about it or something, it’s not their place to ask. and i could be projecting, but i think that most kids have a similar relationship with their parents.
i don’t know, but it doesn’t really make a difference to me. if what i said doesn’t work for you, don ‘t follow it. easy as that.
Actually, lovie, I do know a parent who is perfectly fine with pot smoking. But that isn’t the point.
honey-
i dunno, not really
should it?
and also, are you a freshman or a sophomore or what?
yeah, i know three parents who do smoke pot. so i’m fairly certain that they’re okay with their kid doing it…
also not the point.
ooooooooooooooooh, i think i know who honey is :]
are you in eighth?
i wouldn’t say anything to that parent.
if their cool with it, it’s fine.
Most kids don’t have that sort of relationship with their parents. I was heavy into a lot of stuff for awhile, not drugs, but just as bad legally, and it almost resulted in my house getting raided. Point being, if kids can put up a front, their parents aren’t going to be any wiser.
Unlike most kids, I think I know my limits, and that’s probably what’s saved me many times.
But in large part, kids don’t know their limits, and parents need to just try to be more involved in their lives. Do more than just driving to school, to Northpark, and putting a $20 in their pocket for “lunch”.
Its all good, NT. You have my friend’s initials. And I’m a fish. Go figure.
well honey, we haven’t hung out in like… forever.
and you live right down the street.
what gives?
What?
nt.
is blazed right now.
oh… wait.
you’re not amy, nevermind
wow… i feel smart.
NT, love this: “Do more than just driving to school, to Northpark, and putting a $20 in their pocket for “lunch”.”
Give us some “do more” suggestions. I know you have said talking helps but I think we, as parents think you don’t want us to talk. How do we reach you without feeling like you’re blowing us off or getting more sick of us? again, not judging, just really interested in how to reach my kids when they’re your age and helping other parents see the light. Give us some buzz words that are helpful.
We’re lacking savvy in this area. Give it to us in very simple terms.
A lot of it just has to do with how “clean” you want your kids to be. Parents need to accept the fact that their kids are going to experiment, though, hopefully not all in 7th grade.
The main thing that both parents and kids need to keep in mind is limits, because really, just about everything is alright, in moderation.
act like your okay with them being honest even if it makes you mad. if you don’t let your kids do what they wanna do they will ultimately just lie about what their doing, where their going, and who their hanging out with. instead of saying if i catch you drink your grounded, say dont drive home drunk, i will come get you.
yahhh knoww.?
what do i do if i’m the parent of the girl that was smoking pot in the bathroom? what do I say that will reach her?
fazeroner, you said: “I was heavy into a lot of stuff for awhile, not drugs, but just as bad legally, and it almost resulted in my house getting raided.”
how did you get it back together?
who says faze did?
who says its all back together? who says others arent still being affected by it?
well that’s quite a different situation… i mean, with “katie” as i’ve previously referred to her, this is not the first incident that’s happened with her. so her parent’s are sending her to boarding school.
but if it’s the first time you hear about your child getting into serious trouble, just remember a few things.
1)NEVER GET MAD AND YELL. yelling automatically puts us on the defensive, and we’ll just fight it, we won’t learn. be stern, and be very disappointed. make them feel bad about themselves. they won’t resent you afterwards if you do it that way.
2) do exactly what mj said. don’t say “if i catch you drunk, you’re grounded” say “don’t drive home drunk, i’ll come get you”. it’s very comforting to know that our parents are that understanding, and also that they’ll have our backs if we do mess up. it’ll establish a better relationship with our parents too.
3) talk to them like they’re human beings too, don’t treat them like crap because they messed up. they probably feel bad enough as it is. talk to them like they’re on the same level as you.
and that’s the best advice i can give you. not only will that help us to trust you, it’ll make us think we can talk to you more if you’re so understanding.
Honestly, I haven’t. I still do all the same things that got me in trouble, I use more than ever. But at the same time I’m getting my grades up, working on a new relationship, and keeping everything in moderation.
hmmmm, i thought he had gotten over it, my bad.
boarding school? are you kidding me? do you know about all the stuff that happens at boarding school? COME ON PEOPLE. DEAL WITH YOUR KIDS YOURSELF. DAMN IT.
fazeroner, what would make you stop?
new relationship? what relationship could this be?
and yeah, you do. but its all good. just keep it away from me.
But, when I almost got raided, my parents did have my back, and it helped. Like NT said, his second and third points are really important. My parents are like that, and it helps a lot.
I don’t have a need to stop anything. That’s the main reason to stop anything, a need.
I know my limits, and I know what I enjoy. Be it people, substances, or other activities.
If you almost got raided for it, could it be a good thing? or even indifferent? what would make you stop whatever almost got your house raided?
you can do almost anything you want.
but, moderation is key.
So if you had a need to stop…Would you? And if so, what need? What reason would be good enough to make you stop?
Give faze a minute. He should be back shortly.
But really, Patterson, what reasons do the users have to stop? If they don’t care about harming themselves, what else is there?
I can’t really get into it without explaining what it is, and I don’t know how appropriate of a forum this is to be discussing certain matters.
that’s fair. but if you think about, even if you don’t care about hurting yourself, it hurts the people that love you. Ya know?
Its okay, faze. We all know about your little “secret” (you know, the magic thing) And its okay to let it shine. Just refer to your problems as “the issue”.
To put it simply, I had some artistic issues that were spilling off of my canvases at home and onto other areas.
It doesn’t really affect anyone else, just me, though in some situations it can affect peoples perceptions of you.
what would have to change for you to care about hurting yourself? perceptions aren’t important sometimes and are many times. can you say 100% that “the issue” won’t impact you long term?
Yesss people use the little quoties. But really, dahling. It’ll affect you later. Maybe. Depends if you get caught again.
It probably will impact me, but because it’s essentially become a part of who I am, and I don’t mind that fact.
I’m not really a good person to be basing things off of, I have abstract ideas about how things should be handled, in most respects I like to think that I’m more mature than a large majority of my peers, and I’ve got a bit of intelligence to match.
Back to the issue at hand.
7th graders smoking pot.
indeed.
but whatever… i might pick this back up tomorrow, but i’m tired man.
patterson, you can email me or something if you really feel like you need help with this.
nbtempleton@charter.net
i rarely check it though…
but i dunno, i might.
Did that seriously not post?
what?
Nothing. Go sleep, hun. Way to stick it out.
haha, alright, thank you :]
you should get some rest too, dearest.
Probably, but we all know that homework doesn’t do itself..
uh oh.
e-flirting.
i’m going to have to break out some windows or something.
NT tryin’ta get all on my gal
hahaha, sorry man. just she reminds me a lot of mary b.
ya’ll no mary balogh. right?
Not e-flirting.
e-hitting.
I thought we established that. Or did we..? The world may never know!
MARRYYYYYY ILOV HERRR
OMG
omg who is this?
HOW DO YOU KNOW MARY? ARE YOU JOHNNY?
eh, whatever.
i’m going to bed. gnight.
woah woah woah.
no, this isn’t johnny, this is nathan.
and yes, i love mary to death :]
is this trinity or someone?
nope. although trinity is in my carpool.
ah man, i haven’t talked to trinity in forever.
but who is this, then?
do you know ashley?
ashley porterfield?
i’ve hung out with her like… everyday this week, cuz i’m good friends with her best friend and boyfriend, so i see her pretttty often.
yeah, ask ashley about caroline whos emily’s friend. thats me.
are you going to the mall with her tomorrow night?
caroline pinkston?
um, i think so. is kelsie coming? cuz if she is, then i already promised her i would go.
idk but ashley is ditching our project early to go with you guys so you better keep her safe.
no, not pinkston
i dont even know her that well..
just ask her about me. cant say my last name on here. the universalness of the name is the only thing keeping me around
haha, yeah. sorry bout that.
but ask mary or ashley about me. they definitely know who i am. trinity might, but i doubt it.
but gnight, i actually have to go to bed now :]
goodnight!
I just have one comment for this post. I am not from Dallas but am friends with a lot of kids who went to HPMS and HPHS. They are some of the heaviest drug users I’ve ever seen, and I’m from California! I think that parents are the root of the problem. So many of those kids are so rich and their parents work so much that it’s no wonder that they turn to drugs. Mostly out of boredom and curiousity but also because there’s no there to watch them. Maybe everyone should stop caring so much about what kind of cars they drive and what area of HP or UP they live in and get involved in their children’s lives!
This is tragic. 2 7th-grade girls have thrown away their lives by using marijuana. Why did they choose to do this? Because they didn’t listen in DARE. This is a rare occasion, but a terrible one all the same. With DARE, we can stop this from happening again and keep our schools drug-free!
Why is this happening? How can two ordinary girls get their hands on something as horrible as marijuana? We need to stop this from reoccuring!
Umm… NT? Or Nathan, since you’ve already let that out. You and whoever ‘honey’ is just a conversation over a blog. We’re talking about the two ****** in the grade below us are smoking pot. Not about you two.
Just to clear this up- We’re not all drug users at HPMS. It’s really only a certain group of 20 or so kids, of the 1000 7th and 8th graders, who do drugs. And there is definitely drinking, but not by everybody. I am an 8th grader, and I have not associated with drugs or alcohol what so ever, and the situation has never come up around me. And the number of middle schoolers having sex is insanely low. WE ARE NOT ALL BAD PEOPLE!
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/123354.html
To all above. As a former HP grad, I know what a great place this is to raise a family.
I also know how ignorant parents can be.
Unfortunately, we cannot localize this problem to our wonderful HP schools, as drugs are a horrible problem at campuses all over the city. Public and Private alike… The only suggestion I can provide to concerned parents…Pay attention. Your own children who are “doing this under your nose” are definitely showing signs that something is wrong. Clear your busy schedules and sit down to dine with them. The family dinner will close the growing gap between our adolescent kids and their parents.
Trey, You have already posted that study several times. By continuing to post that study, especially after kids are posting, one might think you are deliberately trying to lead some kids astray. They used to have a phrase for that. John Law called it “contributing to the delinquency of a minor”.
We used to have something else. They called it freedom of speech. Void where prohibited, huh?
I wouldn’t call coaching young people to do something illegal free speech.
Freedom of Speech is a constitutional issue and speaks of the restriction that our government places upon itself to limit the speech of the individual.
I am not part of the government. My being desirous of the limitation of the speech of a person attempting to forward an immoral and or illegal idea to the young people in my community is my right and obligation.
If a person is to make an informed choice, they need to see all the information — not just drug war propaganda.
Actually, let me add that no one has a right or an obligation to limit the speech of another person.
And I certainly hope any teen reading this will know that despite what DARE preaches, their life won’t be ruined should they smoke a joint. Heck, the list of successful entrepreneurs, athletes, scientists, writers, artists and others who have occasionally enjoyed marijuana is lengthy.
An informed choice is whether to vote for Hillary or Obama. An informed choice is about whether to terminate life or not. An informed choice is about which college to attend after graduation. Deciding to smoke pot is not about making an informed choice. It is illegal. And you bet I can restrict your speech. If I catch someone soliciting my kids to use drugs I can restrict not only speech but access to that individual. I can cut off all forms of speech that that person may attempt to use to communicate with my kids.
Here are other examples of the limitation of speech that occurs in our society:
Judges routinely limit the speech of attorneys, witnesses and principals in high profile cases.
The military limits the speech of servicemen and women.
This blog has filters in it that will limit certain language from being transmitted to these pages. I am sure the FB has these filters in place as well.
Certain speech is limited on school campuses; speech that promotes hate for instance or speech that seems to threaten others.
Political speech was limited thru McCain Feingold and upheld by the Supreme Court.
Are you confusing what government does with what is right?
Interesting.
Trey - you are fighting un uphill battle and making yourself look like a ***** in the process.
When I started reading your posts I checked the school directory to see if you have kids near the age of my kids at HP. Honestly, I wouldn’t want to unknowingly allow them to go to your house, where drug use is apparently seen as a good thing.
Do you think it is right to encourage kids to experiment with drugs?
Just to clarify to whom my question was directed to; Trey, Do you think it is right to encourage kids to experiment with drugs?
I think it’s right for kids to know the truth. And I think they’re going to do it anyway — studies show kids who go through DARE have exactly the same likelihood to try drugs as kids who don’t. DARE is absolutely ineffective. And that’s the federal government’s research — an outfit that wouldn’t publish that kind of information unless they had to.
I haven’t mentioned DARE. Independant of DARE there is SCIENCE, which backs my position overwhelmingly. Because you have one study that shows contrary findings to the accepted societal norms but closely resembles your beliefs dosen’t mean the kids aren’t getting the truth. And the old excuse of “they’re going to do it anyway” doesn’t dismiss my responsability to my kids to educate them on the dangers of doing drugs. Trey, it’s been a slice but I don’t think either one of us is going to change the others position. We will blog again at the next controversy.
wait jamie.
20 out of 1000.
youve got to be kidding.
either your kidding or your talking about dealers.
Well maybe there are a few more, but no more than 50.
um.
50 in your grade.
How would you know? Are you one of them?
Jamie. You are completely irrational and you have no understanding of this issue. If you’ve never befriended, or at least talked to, someone who has been offered drugs, then why should anyone take advice form you? Yes, people have tried drugs in our school. Nobody is addicted, but yes, obviously some people are dumb enough to abuse drugs in school, skipping class. You’re wrong, you’re opinionated, you’re obnoxious, and you’re totally oblivious to the fact that a lot of people smoke and they really don’t care about your input. Next subject.
Anomynous- Unanimous - Chill. I think Jamie has made some great comments. You are free to disagree but take a breath and calm down a bit.
Also, are you posting from school? Are you in computer lab, or on an iPhone? Merritt - this might be the next topic for discussion - What are HP students really doing on the computer while at school?
Thanks a lot Anomynous- Unanimous. Ever heard of freedom of speech? Also, at least normal people in out school don’t do drugs.
Open your ears next time you walk down an HPMS hallway, jamie, you might notice the amount of drugs that float around right under your noses. it’s disgusting. All this stry did for the public is made them realize that this IS a bigget problem than we thought, and that kids are becoming more and more rebellious. Dare doesn’t help, signs don’t help, and sometimes family doesn’t help. We need to find a better way to educate children on the effects of drugs and let them make their own choices.
I’ll do my best to be alert.
Merritt- Don’t know if you heard about this, but an 8th grade girl apparently had some issue with alcohol a couple weeks ago. It was brought to Mr. Bohac, the assistant principal, and she today was kicked off of the basketball team. Missed the last game.
See, alcohol? That I knew was happening. Drugs, not so much.
its not just ****** up people who do drugs.
you would be suprised.
its a whole lot different in highschool.
but still.
think about it rationallly.
no one does drugs because their horrible and awful and hurt your body.
people do drugs because they make you feel good.
and weed and cocaine are totally different things.
so i dont know which kind of drugs your talking about.
jamie-
if you really think that this doesn’t go on, you need to look around more. get your eyes checked. something.
I will try. I obviously hang out with good people, and am not exposed to this.
NT=NATHAN TEMPLETON
honey=AMY HARVIE
um, E? whoever you are, i would definitely rethink posting that. obviously you don’t have the faintest idea what really happened, so stop pretending like you do. the person who went to bohac was WRONG it was not their place and they should have kept their nose out of someone else’s business, it was not their responsibilty to tattle to the vice principal, and it is most certainly not wise to be spreading that around the internet. anyone hear about the last school e-mail sent out? yeah it’s about student confidentiality, something all parents can learn about.
um “e” i would deffiately agree with “alrighty.” think about what you say before you say it, espically if you dont know what happened and werent there. normal people dont go off telling the whole park cities what went on if you dont even know what the hell your talking about. the people saying this are the only ones that actually know what happened. so i suggest that whoever this is since you obviously werent there and dont know the whole story.. to not go spreading it around. its private business that no one needs to know. everyone can understand how the school had a part in this involving sports and all, but thats IT. nothing else. no one needs to know the details. and whoever told the vice principle about this incident had the story totally wrong because we actually know what happened so i would listen to us if i were you and get your story strait. everyone makes mistakes in life and people need to uderstand that. the parents are the ones who are gossiping about this whole thing more than our own 8th grade, and they are taking it way out of preportion. the friends of the girl and people who went through this are being sincere about the whole dilemma, and the parents are taking everything the wrong way acting as if someone makes one bad decision then they are a bad person. reality check: people make mistakes and learn from them. thats how life goes. get used to it. its over now so whoever keeps bringing it up drop it and find other drama to talk about.
“who knows” is right. 99.99999% of y’all have no idea what actually happened, so leave it to those who do. and “E” i would have to say we jump back on the topic of two SEVENTH GRADE GIRLS caught SMOKING MARIJUANA at THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, since i don’t know, THAT’S WHAT THIS WHOLE BLOG IS HERE FOR.
Okay, everyone. This isn’t some book or a television show. so, stop talking as if it is! This family is going through a really hard time, so stop gossiping about it. Get back to your own lives, and if yours isn’t interesting enough, then talk about shows or something makebelive. This is really sad to see going on, and all everyone can do is talk bad about these girls? Yes, they made a big mistake, but that dosn’t make it okay for everyone to get involved. Let them deal with it them selves! I’ve even met them once or twice and they are really nice girls who made a really bad mistake. But everyone does. Because they did something bad, dosn’t make them bad people.Everybody makes mistakes, some being really bad, some being minor. Think back on your life, are you going to say that you never did anything really stupid? Come on, everybody. This is a shame to see that instead of offering support [as you should], you’re trashing them. They’re dealing with the consequences, so don’t thik that they’re just brushing it off as if nothing happened. I bet they’re regretful and feel really stupid, as they should.
So, my point? : Everybody, stop trashing them, and let them deal with everything on they’re own. They don’t need this to make it worse.
I agree A LOT with “okay everyone..”. People, get a life.
yeah, i know these girls. theyre really sweet and theyre realllllllly funny and really fun people to hang out with!!!they just made a bad mistake.. are u honestly going to say that u havnt make mistakes?come on..everyone in hp always seems to focus on the negatives about people.. never the positive. thats reallly annoying.. some PARETS are worse than the kids with the drama.. UR NOT IN MIDDLE SCHOOL ANYMORE [PATENTS WHO R TRASHING THEMM]SO STOP ACTING LIKE IT.[hints why hp has such a snobby/rude rep.]
UM excuse me? Don’t you DARE say that I’m Amy. I thought we established early on that my name is NOT Amy.
Jeeze. Pay attention.
Perhaps _part_of the problem is that HPISD is relying on a flawed model for substance abuse prevention. DARE was designed to put law enforcement in schools, but has repeatedly been shown to be ineffective at preventing substance misuse. In some studies, it actually _enhanced_ experimentation.
Perhaps those of you who pay (plenty of) taxes into HPISD should find out why a discredited model is still being used…
see:
Project D.A.R.E.
Outcome Effectiveness Revisited
Steven L. West and Keri K. O’Neal
Am J Public Health.
2004 June; 94(6):1027–1029.
i just graduated from highland park middle school, and i know cassi. i think its terrible what all of you are doing. gossiping about 7th graders…look at the headline of this. seventh grade potheads smoke the evidence?thats unforgivable. i hope you see waht your doing isn’t right. and that a place like highland park has driven many kids to smoke pot and do other drugs. and dont act so surprised that kids can get drugs here because they can get worse things than pot.